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Les voies d'accès au mont Royal (Camillien-Houde / Remembrance)

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  1. julius erdstein
    A reserved separate bicycle lane but road opened to car traffic all year is my vote.
  2. Paul Sowney
    It should me more than clear that the VAST MAJORITY is against this project of closing down the access to Mount Royal at any time..BUILD a necessary bike path...and a one lane car lane in each direction..the MOUNTAIN belongs to ALL not only to a handful of cyclists. .cities like Paris..London..New York and our sister city MUNICH all have such routes..I could go on and on but it is mostly useless to talk to political who have already made up their minds and pretend to consult the MAJORITY..and THEY plan on making it worse with the plans for St Catherine street...ONE LANE..think what would happen if there was a REAL emergency or shooting like in Toronto or so many cities...good luck getting police or vehicles to the scene..IDIOTIC. .and as for the TALK of TRAMS in our city..one word..WINTER..they will be a total failure...this is MONTREAL..not rome. Torino. .Vienna..or Amsterdam. .they don't get 35 cm..of snow a winter..never mind all at once..I would like to Volunteer my time to be an advisor ..if you want common sense.
  3. Deborah Mercier
    Like the good citizen and community member that I am, I commute to work Monday to Friday with STM-Opus, subject to the usual delays and annoyances of buses not showing up for 20 or 30 minutes after they are scheduled to, waiting in lineups with 200 other commuters for a 105 west to show up at Vendome, being crammed into the metro lodged in someone’s armpit with doors not able to close and hearing that common, daily refrain “il y a une porte du train bloquée qui cause une ralentissment de service. Degager les portes immediatement!” The scenario would make good fodder for a sit-com or for Tetes a Claques!

    In the evenings and on the weekends, I use my car. When I used to go to Mount Royal/Beaver Lake with my kids when they were younger, I used my car. Except for a couple of Sundays during the peak foliage season in the fall, I was always able to find a parking spot. The mountain used to be accessible to families with young children, seniors, and tourists. The thought of schlepping around town waiting for buses and shuttles to get to my destination would definitely cause me to head over to Mt. St. Gregoire to enjoy nature, or a walk in the country. Montreal’s loss – just when the city is trying so hard to woo suburbanites back into the city. Quelle affaire!

    If La Ville de Montréal wants to have “optimal parking management” and is worried about the fact that the parking lots on the mountain are practically empty during the week, consider reserving some spots for commuters who can’t get to or park downtown and shuttle them to a 165 bus stop. If La Ville is worried about cyclists being sideswiped by cars using Camilien Houde, create a bike lane that is protected from traffic with concrete as on de Maisonneuve. If La Ville is worried about U-turns at the lookout, install cameras and issue tickets. If La Ville wants to protect the flora and fauna while maintaining accessibility, consult with experts at McGill’s Faculty of Agricultural and Environmental Sciences for what needs to be done. And do it. If La Ville wants to curb through traffic during rush hour, then prevent commuters from using Camilien Houde from 7 to 9 AM and from 4 to 6 PM. (But, if construction around the Mountain is causing major traffic snarl-ups, La Ville might take pity on its taxpayers and -- during exceptional circumstances -- open up the route over Mount Royal. Franchement! For every problem there must be a solution. Closing the mountain to the majority of Montrealers is NOT the solution for this city, with its geography, topography, layout and the needs and desires of most of its citizens.

    Here’s my vote. Restore mountain access to families with young children, seniors, tourists, and to motorists who wish to visit their dead relatives in the cemetaries. Allow cars back on Camilien Houde and Mount Royal, perhaps subject to limitations. Point finale.
  4. SHEILA GITTELMAN
    Although the Plante administration and Luc Ferrandez have declared the pilot project a resounding success, it appears to me they are looking through rose coloured glasses. What are their numbers based on? Who was their target group?

    I get so angry when I think of the (possible) permanent closing of Camillien-Houde Way/Remembrance Road. It is outrageous for so many reasons which, I'm certain have been itemized countless times by so many.

    Mount Royal Park is is depended upon by those with family members/friends in the cemetery; by families who use the park for their picnics; bridal parties who take pictures for beautiful memories. Limiting/closing access to it goes against every fibre in my body.

    Reduce the speed limit; put up speed bumps do anything necessary but DON'T CLOSE IT!
  5. Mark Boyer
    I think all of the roads should remain open to traffic. Create Bike lanes that include a concrete divider, so cars and bikes stay apart. Make the vehicle speed limit 30KMs, install speedbumps or other speed deterrents, AND Photo-Radar to ensure cars are always slow.

    Add parking underground, and tie it into an underground complex that reaches up to Beaver Lake.
  6. George Peteraitis
    The road over the mountain is for everyone not just to allow bicycles to use it as a training ground. I travel from west end and use the mountain road to get to Mount royal St, and also to visit the grave of my parents in Mount royal Cemetery( which was made more difficult during the summer).On November 1st I travelled over the mountain from Park avenue and just before the first stop sign a bicycle right in front of me decided to make a U-turn without looking, causing me to brake suddenly. Did not seem to care at all.
    Reducing the speed limit may help control how many cars use it as a through-traffic, this would mean if you are in a hurry you would opt for a different route. Because the city is so congested with construction people have taken to finding easier routs.
    I would not considered any kind of a ban as acceptable. If we are trying to save the lives of bicycler's then there needs to be another plan. I have been walking in Mount Royal cemetery taking photographs when a pack of racers are flying on the road past you, rather frightening. I bicycle myself so I am not against it but the attitude has become this is my space so get out of the way.
  7. Arie Alter
    I believe it was the worst ever decision made this past summer to block access of the road Camillien-Houde.
    Its an iconic part of this city. Taking visitors from out of town through the park was not the same this year.
    I hardly visited the mountain with this ridicules change to our landscape.
    Cars, bikes and pedestrians must live together in harmony. Not isolate one from another.
    There was more pollution on the mountain with cars in line ups with their motors running than just allowing cars to drive through.
    I hope we never do this again.
  8. Alan Hutchison
    The road should always be open so I can visit the cemetry
  9. Sharon Rosenschein
    Blocking access was the most stupid move our mayor has ever done.
  10. Daniel Budd
    I think this is a terrible Idea. I tried to go to the mountain last summer and it was practically impossible to get there, to park and when leaving we got stuck in traffic.
    As well, I do not feel safe with the bicycle traffic as a pedestrian. They drive as fast (in some cases faster) than cars and they act as though the rules of the road do not apply to them. The bicycles do not cede right of way to pedestrians, do not stop at stop signs, are verbally abuse to other people, and generally ruin what should be quiet areas for public enjoyment by using them as a practice race course. There are plenty of spaces in Montreal for the bikers to practice their quasi professional biking, most notable the Circuit Giles Villeneuve.
    I find the bicycles a bigger hindrance to enjoying the Mountain than the cars.
    A simple solution - install a barrier in the middle of the road to prevent u-turns and illegal left turns. There can even be a formal bike path separated from the road in the middle of the road to make a bike path.
    I would agree with the goal of the project if the people biking on the mountain were regular citizens who were using bicycles as a means of transportation, but this is not the case.
    Otherwise there is no purpose to the barring of cars as the mountain is insulated enough that when enjoying the nature you do not hear or see the road through the mountain.
  11. Julian Sargisson
    Through traffic on Camillion Houde SHOULD NOT BE BANNED. It could, and should, of course, be stopped as needed for public safety whenever special events or emergencies occur, but should otherwise remain a two way public roadway, as originally designed and intended. It has functioned extremely well in this regard for decades and I believe that the unfortunate accident which seems to have been the catalyst for change would not have been avoided by removing through traffic.

    Creating an eastern approach and return and a western approach and return is inconvenient at the very least and has the potential to become a truly divisive element in the urban landscape of Montreal.

    From my personal observation, the closing of through traffic in no way improves the safety of cyclists which, we are led to believe, was the initial logic behind the temporary closure. What's required are fully protected lanes for cyclists which could even extend to an overpass at the narrow cut through the summit.

    A seemingly dangerous interaction between motorists and cyclist exists at the LOOKOUT on Camillion Houde: cars often cross both auto and bike lanes to enter and exit. This could be improved with better design and some AGREED UPON tax payers money!

    Work closely with Les Amis de La Montagne to ensure representation from non partisan organization interested in the welfare of the mountain.

    Thank you.



  12. Miriam Rose
    The "park road" as it exists is obviously meant for cars. That it needs to be safer can be addressed, primarily by lowering speed limits. Where u-turns are forbidden, surely road barriers can be added for everyone's protection.
    Shuttles from easily accessible parking lots surrounding the mountain might help to reduce traffic on the mountain.

    Overall, I think that the road linking the east and west sectors on either side of the mountain needs to be completely available to cars.
  13. Elayne Libman
    Camiillien Houde -remembrance rd. Should be open to everyone, car, bikes, pedestrians. Closing the road to cars is a terrible idea. This mountain road should be accessible to all, especially seniors who can’t bike and need a car to get around. Tourists also like to travel the road and see the view from the top. I have lived here for 70 years and will be very disappointed not to be able to use this road.
  14. Margot Kyle
    What purpose is served by closing the access road that joins two parts of the city, provides access by all parts of the city to cemetery sites and Mount Royal activities, provides beautiful views of the city, and does not seem to hinder the park life of the mountain.

    I have used this road many times and have never found it overcrowded with traffic.

    Please keep it open!
  15. David Rothschild
    I live on the corner of de la Montagne & Dr. Penfield. The extra traffic now directed down my street due to the closing of Camilien Houde as well as the chronic problems with the corner of Peel and Dr. Penfield are a scandal. For Valerie Plante to assert that the closing was a "success" is unreal. It can now take me up to 20 minutes to go down my street to Sherbrooke Street due to the aforementioned situation. Despite the overload of traffic there is not even a traffic cop on the corner of Sherbrooke and de la Montagne and there is a Bixi stand that heavily used so south bound traffic is further interrupted and/or affected.
  16. Donald Lovell
    My brother and I regularly go up to the mountain with my dog for a walk. We obviously need a car because my dog doesn't know how to ride a bike (yet).
    This past summer was complete mayhem with long lines of traffic and total confusion which in turn becomes very frustrating for the public.
    With road problems all through this city,
    I don't think this is the time to implement a car free mountain.
  17. Ken MacKinnon
    Closing the mountain to
    Cross city traffic would be a tragedy for Montreal. Doing so restricts access and creates traffic issues elsewhere. It would eliminate visitors being able to enjoy probably the nicest drive in Montreal. I live on the western side of the mountain and when it was closed I stopped going to the plateau. All of MONTRÉAL should be available to all montrealers.
  18. Marvin Libman
    I like to drive on remberance road during the year and hope it stays open and accessible to all and not just bikers. What about those of us who are too old to drive a bike? Are we second class citizens? What about families with young children? Why would you even consider taking away our enjoyment of Mount Royal?
  19. Margery Comeau
    I am in favour if through traffic.I support banning it as a rare exception, such as the annual bike race or similar events.priority should be given to walkers and cyclists ,but only if this can be done without restricting car use at all. Olmstead is already dedicated to walkers and cyclists.I think parking should be offered at reduced rates for Montreal families, perhaps with a version of an ACCESS card such as is available for the entrance to Botanicle gardens. The cost is prohibitive to many families who otherwise have very limited green/white space.I am a frequent park user and have only once had difficulty parking, so I don't see reducing car use as necessary.a median at the lookout would eliminat u turns.
  20. Eatelle Coleman
    I believe that the road should be open to both cars and bicycles
    At all times.
    It is with pride that I bring visitors to the mountain and the lookout to show our beautiful city.
    I was not able to do that this summer.
    I don’t believe that this road should be for only elite bicyclists and not all montrealers .
  21. Eatelle Coleman
    I believe that the road should be open to both cars and bicycles
    At all times.
    It is with pride that I bring visitors to the mountain and the lookout to show our beautiful city.
    I was not able to do that this summer.
    I don’t believe that this road should be for only elite bicyclists and not all montrealers .
  22. Koko Banton
    preventing users from making U-turns would be easily solved with the installation of a few roundabouts along the way, usage of which should be clearly indicated at the beginning and along the road in english as well as french so that tourists can understand that they are not trapped on a one way road where they do not know where they will come out and may feel they will get lost.

    training trails for athletic cyclists should be separate, speeding cyclists are dangerous on any roadway. the road should be widened to accommodate leisure cyclists.

    as for universal accessibility, that's easy... stop blocking roads!!
  23. Beverley Hutchison
    Please keep the mountain road open, all year around.
    It allows people to visit the grave sites of their loved ones.
    It allows them to keep the grave sites in an attractive order, by tending to the flowers, throughout the summer. A car is needed to transport bedding plants, and to weed & water them weekly !
    I see no reason to ban recreational bicycles. Marathon training on bicycles should be banned, as they go too fast, & are a danger to pedestrians.
    Naturally, there were less traffic accidents on the mountain this year, as there was less traffic !
    A drive over the mountain was always a pleasant experience for Tourists and Montrealers, alike.
    Please keep the mountain road open all year around.
    A concerned senior citizen , a widow, who found it difficult to visit her husband’s grave this year.



  24. Jennifer Cogan
    In my opinion the Camillien-Houde and Remembrance Road roadways should be kept completely open to car traffic from side to side. The mountain should not be a playground for a select few elite cyclist who do not respect the speed limits. All families and especially those with elderly parents and small children should be able to access the parks with ease.

    A few elected officials should not be allowed to impose their personal views on the whole of the population.
  25. Ann Campbell
    I feel that "through traffic" should be allowed at all times. I do not like the idea of separating the east and west side of the city. I feel a designated bike path could be set up easily with barriers to protect the cyclist. If U turns are a concern, a median could be erected separating the east and west bound lanes.