Les voies d'accès au mont Royal (Camillien-Houde / Remembrance)
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- Victor YeramianPlease DO NOT Close Car Traffic during the WEEK DAYS and Saturdays.
Close the Mountain to CAR Traffic on Sundays between May 1st and Oct.30th. - E SaffmanThrough traffic on the mountain should be allowed at ALL TIMES to ensure accessibility. Banning through-traffic serves only to limit accessibility and exacerbate parking issues. I am opposed to any proposal to ban through-traffic.
Accessibility could nevertheless be improved by providing better public transportation to the mountain. Shuttle buses from nearby metro stations would encourage people to use public transit instead of driving, especially if combined with an increase in parking fees.
You should focus on increasing access and providing public transit alternatives, not limiting access. - Ralph LipperClosing the road to car circulation is a disaster and makes little sense in the context of Montreal. It may be attractive to a small (by comparison with the general bicycle population) group of cyclists but results in depriving many of the elderly, handicapped, children, tourists, etc from easy access to the mountain and as was seen this past year, causes a traffic chaos on other streets. There is room for all.
- Barbara OvadiaPlease keep the Camilien Houde remembrance road OPEN
- Barbara OvadiaPlease keep the Camilien Houde remembrance road OPEN
- MIRYAM ALTERI VOTE FOR TOTAL AUTOMOBILE ACCESS TO MT. ROYAL
- Tanya IzzoI feel that the Camillien-Houde Way and Remembrance Road should remain open year round. By closing access, it makes it much harder for families and the elderly to come to the mountain.
- Andrew OsborneI'd like to see through-traffic always allowed over the mountain.
As a driver, I've always really appreciated the view afforded taking that route.
We'd often stop (especially if we have visitors with us) to look out at the city.
We have also taken visitors via bus to the mountain. But with elderly visitors public transit isn't always viable. The lookout is a veritable Montreal tourist attraction, we've never had trouble parking there even in summer.
It's also a very practical (and very scenic) route for those of us in NDG to/from the other side. Especially with all the mess around the turcot, so many other routes can feel like one continuous line of traffic lights with never ending queues.
I realise cyclists have been injured by motorists performing illegal u-turns, but it feels draconian to close the entire route to through traffic in response.
In an ideal world we'd find a way to better protect the cyclists while still allowing through traffic. Clearly that would require substantial investment (more say, than just closing the road).
As an alternative, you could implement traffic control measures to restrict the number of cars on any given stretch, traffic lights, set to count the cars in & out, and increasing the 'stop' duration would eventually force less committed drivers onto other routes. Done well, there would ideally be zero impact during moderate to light traffic periods, but would act as a deterrent for drivers during busy ones. (Exempt buses, taxis)
- Gennarino FioriThe best way to protect pedestrians and cyclists from cars using the mountain to cross the city is to separate the parties concerned. Why not re-use all those concrete blocks that Denis Coderre ordered for the formula e-race. and re purpose them to separate the roadway on the mountain from pedestrians and cyclists. The only problem is the short stretch near the lookout where the road cuts through the mountain. But I'm quite sure that's an easy problem to correct. This way all parties concerned can enjoy the beauty and splendor of the mountain. Of course lower the speed limit and enforce it with photo radar.
Blocking through traffic on the mountain doesn't protect cyclists or pedestrians. They are still sharing the road with cars. - David McEntyrePlease keep the Camillien-Houde Way/Remberance Road thoroughfare open all year. It is convenient; it is a delight to drive in a beautiful part
of the city; it offers wonderful views that Montrealers and visitors alike may enjoy. There are far more citizens who do not cycle than do who are being deprived of one of the outstanding joys our city can offer. - Antonio FioriThe best way to protect pedestrians and cyclists from cars using the mountain to cross the city is to separate the parties concerned. Why not re-use all those concrete blocks that Denis Coderre ordered for the formula e-race. and re purpose them to separate the roadway on the mountain from pedestrians and cyclists. The only problem is the short stretch near the lookout where the road cuts through the mountain. But I'm quite sure that's an easy problem to correct. This way all parties concerned can enjoy the beauty and splendor of the mountain. Of course lower the speed limit and enforce it with photo radar.
Blocking through traffic on the mountain doesn't protect cyclists or pedestrians. They are still sharing the road with cars. - Robert SutherlandHaving lived in Montreal all of my 61 years, I am appalled that the current administration sees fit to usurp power from the people concerning access to the Camillien Houde way. A petition denouncing the move was signed by 4 times the amount of people who signed the petition supporting this closure.
I find it will be difficult accessing Mount Royal cemetery where 7 generations of my family are buried and I visit at least 3 times a year. It also prevents park goes of a certain age as it is difficult to get to the facilities without proper road access.
This is a bad idea, return this access as it was.
Robert Sutherland - Christina FioriThe best way to protect pedestrians and cyclists from cars using the mountain to cross the city is to separate the parties concerned. Why not re-use all those concrete blocks that Denis Coderre ordered for the formula e-race. and re purpose them to separate the roadway on the mountain from pedestrians and cyclists. The only problem is the short stretch near the lookout where the road cuts through the mountain. But I'm quite sure that's an easy problem to correct. This way all parties concerned can enjoy the beauty and splendor of the mountain. Of course lower the speed limit and enforce it with photo radar.
Blocking through traffic on the mountain doesn't protect cyclists or pedestrians. They are still sharing the road with cars. - Chris TodorukThe park was designed for all types of traffic. Cars SHOULD NOT BE BANNED.
Mixing cars and the few bikers that can navigate the steep hill is asking for trouble as problems can arise easily on such a slope and we need space to regain control, if that should happen.
We use the Mt. Royal park, go often to the two cemeteries, and use it to get to our medical appointments just on the Park/Mt. Royal side. This road is a necessity for us as we make these travels with a senior who has mobility issues.
My suggestion for this area is as follows:
1. Keep the road open PERIOD.
2. Use a camera in areas that are problematic, such as illegal U Turns.
3. Create a completely separate bike path, if the biking community is willing to financially contribute towards this venture.
Otherwise, mixing cars with speeding bikes that cannot stop quickly if needed, is reckless. There are many bike paths through the mountain already, so banning bikes on this road makes more sense when looking at safety, tourism, number of vehicle users vs number of bike users, and finance. I fully support creating a separate bike path if bikers can contribute 25% of the cost or volunteer work effort.
4. Create space for public buses to pull over out of the traffic lane to pick up passengers.
Traffic increased on this road when public busses no longer pulled over to the side at stops. The bus blocks and stops all traffic because the City reconfigured the stops and sidewalks closer to the road. E.g. at the police stable stop. This is completely without logic.
5. Have free public transit around the Mountain.
If you walk over the mountain from Peel to Beaver Lake, why not have a bus that can bring you back? Stops should come by at least one metro station and cover all areas of the Mountain. Start with one bus an hour, then adjust based on popularity. This would reduce parking overflow if you can park elsewhere or use a metro, then link up with the Mt. Royal free bus.
6. Create separate bike paths away from pedestrians who use the various roads and paths on the Mountain. The bikes can be very dangerous to those walking as they speed down the dirt roads. Again, this is a situation created with mixing two forms of transportation that does not mix on such steep slopes. I’m sure there have been many pedestrians hurt or close calls with speeding bikers.
Let’s make this work for all and ensure there is participation from all, whether volunteers or financially. We place too much emphasis on car owners to pay for everything related to transit.
Thank you
Chris Todoruk
- Leona HeilligAs a resident of the Plateau who often travels to Cote St. Luc, Westmount and NDG for work and to visit family and friends, I feel strongly that cars should have the right to use the road across the Mountain. This is the most pleasant way to cross the city and I use it often. I don't mind driving slowly as I enjoy the views and feel it is a privilege to have this beautiful park in the centre of our city. I agree with the system of stop signs that has been in place for the past several years, as it slows traffic. I avoid using the road during weekends in the summer.
Also, during the past several summers, Pine Avenue and/or Dr. Penfield have been closed or mostly closed at various times, Van Horne is blocked, Sherbrooke has been partially closed and the Ville Marie expressway is closed on weekends, not to mention the St. Jacques exit. With the mountain road closed as well this summer, travelling to visit my elderly mother-in-law every week has been extremely challenging and frustrating!
I think there should be a barrier in place to prevent people from making U-turns at the lookout. Also, signage should be improved as it is not at all clear to tourists that this is forbidden.
I rarely see cyclists using the chemin Camilien-Houde. It is a very steep road and is not very accessible to most cyclists.
I believe priority should be given to people who want to use the park, and that people who cannot walk, cycle or take public transport, such as the elderly, small children and people with disabilities should be taken into account. Those people only have access to the mountain in a car.
As someone with a health condition which makes me intolerant to heat, I know that public transportation is not as accessible to everyone as the city would like to believe. Waiting in the heat for a bus which is not air-conditioned is impossible for me as it is for many people, and this prevents us from enjoying the cool air on the mountain in the summer.
I agree with the idea that shuttle buses from adjacent parking lots could be a solution to the congested parking during the weekend. - Janet BestI support stopping through traffic between Camillien-House and Remebrance Road. I think it makes the mountain more peaceful and it does not affect my access to the mountain.
- Peter TsukPARK ROAD
The road should be open to through traffic, as well as access to both parking lots and cemeteries from both sides of the mountain! As there is sufficient space available, a dedicated bike path and a median divider where required should be constructed, as well as a sidewalk. This will ensure safe enjoyment of the mountain for all, without damage to the environment.
In other major cities large parks in the city are crossed by one or two roads, such as Central Park in New York (also designed by Olmstead ) as well as Hyde Park in London and Golden Gate park in San Francisco, to name a few important parks.
GROUP OF USERS GIVEN PRIORITY
No single group of users should be given priority! Provisions should be made to accommodate all users equally.
PUBLIC TRANSIT
Public transit should be improved by provision of a frequent shuttle bus over the mountain only, on weekends seasonally.
PARKING
The existing parking is adequate, if a shuttle bus is available on weekends seasonally.
UNIVERSAL ACCESABILITY
The currently available pedestrian access routes should be more clearly marked, such as stairs and walks from Cote Des Neiges, and Pine avenue, and the road from Cote Des Neiges directly to the skating rink, and other pedestrian entry points.
LANDSCAPE MANAGEMENT
Existing arrangement excellent
ENVIRONMENT
Existing arrangement excellent
- Shalom DiamondMayor Plante and her administration found a solution for a problem that didn't exist.
- Kelly WiltonI think we should be able to travel across the mountain by car. Only elite cyclists use the mountain for training.
we should spend some money to make it safer for those cyclists/ - Sally McDougallKeep the mountain open! Reduce the speed limit...AND ENFORCE IT. The mountain from one side to the other is for all Montrealers and we are very proud of it and very fortunate to have it....and it must continue to be accessible to all of us, regardless of mode of transit.
- Peter MartinAllow cars to cross the mountain.
Limit the speed to 40 KPH and install cameras to police same. This also goes for cyclists.
Place "STOP" signs at strategic places where pedestrians cross the roadway.
The drive over the mountain is the only scenic drive in the heart of Montreal. Don't take it away.
- Laura GilbertThe pilot project was an abolsute failure. Keep the Mountain open. Why does this city hate cars? It’s 2018, many people drive and shouldn’t be punished by a government that has no concept of what they are doing. Maybe they should rip up more roads next summer! Wouldn’t that be fun. KEEP THE MOUNTAIN OPEN.
- judith cameron
There are obviously many challenges to resolving the delema of safe access to the park to all users
I personally feel that through traffic should be available year round
I think dedicated separate bike route would improve safety. However cyclists should have to respect speed limits as well as cars do and this should be enforced.
- George TaitMonsieur, Madame,
Je suis POUR GARDER L’ACCES AUX AUTOS DES PARICULIERS.
Même si je demeure à l’extérieure de la ville de Montreal je souhaite que mon opinion soit entendu.
Je visite la ville régulièrement et un de mes plus grand plaisirs est de traverser la Montagne pour profiter de la vu sur la ville vers l’est pour quelque minutes. Quand j’ai la chance je prend du temps pour me promener autour du Lac des Castors.
Au sujet de la sécurité des cyclistes, serait-il possible d’installer des bollards en plastique tubulaire, qu’on voit régulièrement pour définir la ligne d’une piste cyclable? Les mettant au milieu du chemin, a la place des lignes blanches, durant l’été, suffirait d’obliger les automobilistes d’accepter de ne pas fair des virages en ‘’U’’ et mieux respecter l’utilisation du chemin. Pendant la période hivernale ils seraient enlevés comme partout ailleurs.
Mes salutations distinguées,
George Tait. - Pat DanielsonI would like to see the same opening of roads on the mountain that we've had all our lives. It just is not fair to cut off the car drivers just for people who like cycling. Especially those cyclists who speed all the time with no thoughts of those on foot. Also not fair to expect the elderly, who never use the transit systems to now have to walk to use it and/or climb stairs to get to them, etc. There are lots of us who live at the far West End of the Island and do you really expect us to spend a couple of hours travelling when a car ride is so much shorter? You have cut out our ability to visit our parents, buried at the top of the mountain. How unfair is that. I can tell you we have thousands of cyclists using Gouin West who do not stop at stop signs, who ride side by side, often in large groups and we the drivers have to respect all the road signs and they just don't. They need to be ticketed, just like vehicle drivers. Anyhow, I wish you, Valerie Plante would spend our taxes on much more needed ventures, other than caring only for your downtown streets and the mountain. You will be cutting out tons of downtown and mountain visitors.