Les voies d'accès au mont Royal (Camillien-Houde / Remembrance)
Commentaires en ligne - English
- Abe KestenbergKeep the road over the mountain open at all times and build a bicycle path for safety.
Please do not block the mountain road.
Many thanks - Neil GlazerI think the road should be kept open.
If the traffic is too fast there are ways to reduce the speed while still keeping open the roadway. I have relatives who are invalids and cannot take buses.
For the cyclists, I think a protected lane can be made with the Jersey barriers left over from the Formula E races. - Tammy HalpernI think the road should be kept open.
Use the Jersey barriers left over from the Formula E races to make a lane for bikes.
If speed is a problem keep the road open and find another way to reduce the speed, like photo radar.
- Filomena PlacidoAcess to cars should be allowed.
- Bernard St-LaurentI believe the plan implemented this summer is unfair to people who live in NDG..
We liked to bring our grandchildren to the mountain but it became such a hassle we simply stopped going..
I feel sad for my grandchildren.. I have a respiratory disease which makes it hard to walk so I don’t go at all.
I’m very upset and hope you change your policy.
This proposed reform is discrimination against people with reduced mobility and only favours cyclists and people who are in shape. - Peter BraunEveryone, including the elderly who can't take buses, should be able to drive into the Park and and park, so that they can carry in their little BBQs and picnic stuff, and toys for their kids. The park is NOT only for very fit cyclists! It is a myth that the park road is dangerous for cyclists, if they obey the rules. Establish bike lanes. The current car traffic moves slowly due to many stop signs. PLEASE LISTEN TO PEOPLE OTHER THAN CYCLISTS!!!
- Fernando AmaralI feel that the mountain should be open to cars all year round. It has never been a problem until someone decided that one accident should be enough to close it to cars. There are few cyclists who use it to access Beaver lake, only competitive cyclist complain about te cars and that is because they like to speed coming downhill (I know because I was one of them)
Suggestions for safety measures
-Put barriers in the middle so cars can’t pull u-turns
-Put up signs so travelers know where to go to access the sites
-put speed bumps to make sure cars slow down (cyclists also)
I spent an afternoon watching how many cyclists and cars go up from Mount Royal and I didn’t see any problem with limited cars or cyclists on the road. When it rains, less cyclists.
Any family that wants to go to Beaver lake or the chalet view will not take public transit and they will not drive around the mountain to enter from Cote des Neiges side.
Closing the road also affects the families who want to visit their family members at the cemetery
I don’t use the mountain everyday to get home but when I have a choice I save 10 minutes to get home. I don’t care about the time, it’s more the gas that I burn while waiting at lights or stuck on traffic as I make my way around Pine ave. or Cote st. Catherine.
That’s 10 minutes of extra fumes that create pollution that the trees on Camillien-Houde would otherwise turn into oxygen
- Christine JacobsI do not own a car and do not drive. However, I do not like the closure of the road over the mountain to car through traffic. I did visit the mountain by bus this summer, and found no change in the density of traffic, perhaps because of the day and time. There were just more cars turning around because they could not get through and all going at a speed that was not any slower than prior. There were also bicycles zipping through making it awkward to cross the road for the bus. The only positive aspect for me was the increase in frequency of buses from the Snowdon metro over the mountain.
I would like:
1. a separate path made for the bicycles so that the bicycle through-traffic not interfere so much with pedestrians and people enjoying the park.
2. Through traffic encouraged to travel more slowly between Beaver Lake and the Camillien Houde lookout -- perhaps with traffic calming measures like used on residential streets. Cars driving up and turning around do not make it better or safer!
3. I would prefer the mountain not be developed much more than it is. The cemeteries are lovely, the walking areas are comfortable.The chalet is being worked on and there is room for a nicer installation at Beaver lake. For safety it may be necessary to improve lighting and paths, but not to the point of filling up greenspace with concrete.
The only way to increase the use of public transit up the mountain is to increase the frequency of buses as was done this summer. It will not improve usage instantly, but as people realize the option is viable, those in a position to do so will take the public transit.
I also feel it is a real detriment to tourism to force people to drive around the mountain if they would like to see the mountain and the city views on both sides. Although I do not have a car, I always really appreciate a drive over the mountain when it is offered. I do not expect my friends to drive me up one side, then back down and around to the other side.The idea is ludicrous.
If the mountain and its parking lots are so empty during the week, then there is no problem with the through traffic during the week. It is only on weekends that there should be "full parking lot" signs displayed before the drivers are committed to making the turn onto the mountain.
- Douglas HollingworthI don't understand why the city won't support a project to make the mountain accessible to ALL of its citizen, yes even drivers, by creating a barrier protected bike path, a separate walkway and a road for vehicles. Don't tell me it's not possible, lord know this city has sunk money into worse ideas.
A properly reconfigured roadway that has protected lanes for cyclists, motorists and pedestrians open all year round. Reduced speed limit and speed bumps on the motorist lane to insure no speeding. As a montreal driver I would support a project like this.
- Helen AdamPlease don't sequester the park. Allow access to ALL! We all pay the upkeep. We are ALL entitled to reap the rewards. Thank you.
- Jack HoffmanOur mountain is a great asset to the city.
It should be available to be shared by all citizens.
The roadway connecting Cote des Neiges to Park Ave was meant to allow cars to traverse it, saving motorists valuable time during rush hours.
The fact that one cyclist was killed because of a freak accident caused by a wrong turn by a tourist do not merit condemning the use of cars on this short-cut.
Cyclists as a group have not overcome their feeling of years being able to break all traffic rules.
Since they share the road with cars, the must obey the rules the same as motorists.
I believe all cyclists should be made to have a license for their bikes. It should come as a low no-profit cost sale by the city. ..
This is necessary when being ticketed if they don't have other proof of identity on them, and for photo-radar (see below)
Bikes should be held if they don't have a license and/or identification..
All must have white light at the front and a red light at the back
Wearing a helmet should be mandatory to save lives, just as a seat belt is for motorists.
They must obey all traffic rules and will only do so, when given large enough fines for breaking them.
The rules should include no driving on side-walks and using bike lanes where available.
As well, driving on one-way streets, use the same side with cars and not against the traffic.
A complete list of rules for cyclists should be available and cyclist organisations should urge their members to obey the law.
The fines must be substantial because they have to deter them, rather than being a slap on the wrist.
On the mountain road, there should be speed signs and any other advisory signs.
Police must patrol this road for several months handing out tickets to cars and cyclists to ingrain the fact that the laws must be followed, and if not followed, fines will raised..
The use of photo-radar would be a great tool to deter and catch violations when police are not on duty
Thank you.
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- Joan hopkinsAs a resident of downtown Montréal, I want the Mountain Road open for me and my family, however we choose to use it, as a drive with a lovely view over to Laurier for breakfast or to fill the car with grandkids and walk up to the Chalet. As a public park, it should never have been shut down for the elite cyclists. In addition the city should ban the bikes racing through the park on the walking paths. My friend was hit by one cyclist on the walking path. She went to hospital with cuts, bruises requiring stitches to the head. She suffered with dizziness and pain for weeks. Bikers race through the park and are a menace forcing people out of their way.
- Jose luis RodriguezTotally against blocking the road to cars. Find a better solution
- Shane StephensonI am opposed to closing the mountain road. The mayor is not listening. She is clearly anti car at any cost.
- Jonathan SingermanThe. Closing if the road actually restricts access to the park. I tried entering the park from Cote-des-Neiges in a weekend.
The lot was full so all the cars were idling their engines and burning gas. There was a big line up to get in to the park only to be told the lower lots were full and everyone had to exit the park. I ended up parking outside the park. I discovered the upper parking lots were half empty but as the road was closed you could not asscess them. Opening the road would allow more people to access the park so they can use all parking lots. The road closure is a horrible idea as it restricts access to the park.
The mayor should have placed this idea on her platform during the campaign but it was not. Too bad - Alexandra StephensonI am strongly opposed to the proposed limited access to Mount Royal as do a majority. It is appalling that our mayor has so little respect for the wishes of said majority. Her arrogance in thinking she knows best is undemocratic. I am glad I did not vote for her. I hope Montreal wakes up for the next election.
- Tristan BreeuwerPark road should mean road that gives access to and from the park. Through traffic should not be allowed, with exceptions for emergency vehicles. Perhaps a 5km/h road connection between parking lots would complete universal accessibility to the park.
- Douglas ClarkeThe parkway should remain open to all- cyclists and drivers. A safe passageway is possible- slow down drivers; slow down cyclists!
- Julia DawsonI want the Camillien Houde road over Mount Royal to remain open for automobile traffic. I love showing visitors this view of Montreal from both sides of our royal mountain.
- Mark KrupaI am a commuter with a car who travels frequently to the plateau and back for business. The places I go are not readily accessible by metro. After the Remembrance mountain road closure, I spent almost twice as much time getting to work and back. And I am not alone. Many of my colleagues who all work as freelancers in Montreal's lucrative TV & FILM industry expressed frustration and even outrage at this closure. There are no circumstances in which the through-traffic on the Mountain should be banned, especially NOT in the construction-plagued environment that Montreal has become. The closure forces commuters to waste time, be less efficient at work, and POLLUTE the city much more. The closure forces drivers to be in their cars longer and pollute more. That is unacceptable. The closure also takes away one of the most scenic routes drivers can enjoy in Montreal. Many of us, elderly people included, often stop to collect our thoughts and enjoy the view. Montreal is an island with massive bridge problems and other issues. Why fix what is NOT broken? Surely there are many areas where hard-working taxpayer money can go. Keep this road open. It's important. The vast majority of my colleagues in the TV and Film industry agree. If we want car-free zones, let's start with downtown - metro service is excellent downtown. Leave the mountain alone.
Warmest regards, M!
Mark A. Krupa
ACTRA / UDA / WGC - Anne-Marie PerrottaBy closing this road, you created major traffic congestion on surrounding roads. While it is tragic that a cyclist lost his life on that road, it doesn't mean the road needs to be closed. Cyclists and pedestrians are unfortunately killed all over the city. You wouldn't close every road, would you?
The current parking is sufficient and the bus route is also good. - Michael GaleA significant element of the pilot project this summer was the closure of part of Remembrance Road / Camillien Houde, the intention of which was to prevent motorists from using the roadway as an East-West artery. This closure was very upsetting to many Montrealers whose access to Mont Royal Park and periodic drives over the mountain were severely curtailed or abruptly terminated. There was a lack of transparency behind this decision. It pitted car owners, cyclists, commuters, environmentalists and visitors to the park, against each other. Because it has been such a divisive issue, the city administration should delay any decision to permanently close the artery until the next municipal election. There are too many Montrealers who vigorously object to a permanent closure.
- Jill BarryI DO NOT support closing the Mount Royal road to traffic. It hurts local businesses, it stops people from easy access to visit the cemetery and it congests traffic as people detour through the downtown core.
We also lose the pleasure of the beautiful leisurely drive over the mountain to enjoy our city and its many beautiful vistas.
I do not believe that the flora and fauna on Mount Royal are affected by allowing cars. Animals and plants adapt to their environment and have co-existed in cities forever.
- Lloyd LiverantI live off of Cote Des Neiges. When the road over the mountain was open I took it many times just to avoid all the construction that is continuously going on in the city. Of all summers this was one of the worse to close off the mountain road. With major construction going on at Dr. Penfield and Pine that forced all the traffic down to Sherbrooke Street it was a disaster to get to Parc avenue. There was construction also going on at Sherbrooke and University so it was difficult to get back up to Dr. Penfield. Had the mountain road been kept open it would have been an easy drive to get to Parc Avenue. The mountain road should have stayed open while there was all the construction going on at Peel and Dr. Penfield. The traffic on Dr. Penfield was forced down to one lane then all the cars were diverted down to Shrebrooke. The ensuing traffic was unbearable. And talk about pollution. With all the cars stuck in traffic the idling cars were giving off fumes. This one example of construction shows the need to keep the mountain road open. There needs to remain options to getting to the other side of town. Especially if there is an accident causing traffic blockage at least you can take an alternative route but with the mountain closed there will no longer be that option.
- Catherine DoucetThere have been numerous solutions and ideas proposed on how to solve the issues of Camillien-Houde Way and Remembrance Road. The final agreed upon solution must make it both safe for all who use it and allow it to serve its purpose as an access to the charm that our Mountain and its vistas provide for anyone who wishes to experience them.
The most important guiding principal in the decision should be that Camillien-Houde Way and Remembrance Road only be used to access the Mountain itself. This would entail slowing the speed limit down and treating it as a school zone, at 30 km/hr as well as having traffic calming measures (of which the City already has tried and proven methods). Photo radar should be installed to catch speeders. These measures would act as a deterrent for people in a hurry and looking for a short-cut. Vulnerable points for cyclists must be identified and appropriate safety measures applied. The most experienced cyclists will be able to identify these spots.
The City of Montreal must not miss the opportunity to take one of the most unique local natural tourist sites and improve on its accessibility to make it sustainable, safe and frequently enjoyed.