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Les voies d'accès au mont Royal (Camillien-Houde / Remembrance)
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The Office de consultation publique de Montréal was given a mandate by the executive committee to hold a public consultation focusing on the pilot project to remove private-vehicle through-traffic from Camillien-Houde Way and Remembrance Road and to imagine the future of those access roads to Mount Royal.

A complete recap of the various activities organized by the OCPM during the pilot project is available on the consultation page.

The present exercise is an integral part of the hearing-of-opinions process. Every comment will be brought to the commissioners’ attention and will be part of the corpus of information leading to the report. That is why we ask that you respect the rules of the OCPM and identify yourself so that your opinion can be taken into account.

The following questions are optional and are intended to guide you in preparing your opinion.

Transit traffic (through-traffic)

Under what conditions would you consider it acceptable to allow through-traffic on the mountain?

Under what conditions would you consider it acceptable to ban through-traffic on the mountain?

In your opinion, what would be possible alternatives to removing through-traffic? What would be the conditions for their application?


Traffic diagram during the Ville de Montréal pilot project (June 2 to October 31, 2018)

Park road

In reviewing the arguments submitted on the online consultation platform, it becomes clear that the definition of the “park road” concept is not the same for everyone. In your opinion, what is a park road and who should be allowed to use it?

Sharing the road

On the online consultation platform, a great many of you pointed out that sharing the road is important and that we must ensure the safety of all users. In your opinion, which groups of users should currently be protected as a priority? What developments should be made to Camillien-Houde Way and Remembrance Road to achieve that objective?

Public transit

Do you have any suggestions as to how to promote the use of public transit to get to the mountain?

Parking

What do you think of the current parking offering on the mountain? Can we really talk about optimal parking management knowing that on weekends when the weather is nice the parking lots are overflowing and during the week they are practically empty?

With a view to reducing the number of vehicles on the mountain, what do you think of the idea suggested by some participants to make parking lots adjacent to the mountain available to users of the mountain? Either by improving the traffic signals in their vicinity, for example for pedestrians, or by establishing a shuttle linking them to various points of interests or other nearby parking lots?

Universal accessibility

How can we ensure universal accessibility? What should be done first?

New layouts for roadways

Are there any developments/layouts that you would like to improve or add?

Many participants mentioned on the online consultation platform and during the creative workshops that drivers are still making U-turns around the entrance and exit of the Camillien-Houde lookout. In your opinion, what measures could be implemented to prevent U-turns around the lookout?

Landscape, heritage and attractiveness

Do you have any suggestions to highlight this emblematic site?

During the creative workshops, some participants suggested that access roads to the park should be enhanced, either with better traffic signals/signage or visibility of pathways and north and south access routes, or by developing the east and west entrances. What do you think about that?

Environment

How can we protect the mountain’s fauna and flora while making it accessible to all those who want to enjoy this green space at the heart of the city?

 

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Résultats

31. Opinion présentée par Myriam Skrutkowski

Transit traffic:
- permit all year and enforce a speed limit of 25 km/ hour.
Park road:
- created for all users to access the park and Mount Royal Cemetery.
- speed bumps along the road to limit the speed, even for some cyclists who use road for their racing practice .
Sharing the road:
- install speed bumps throughout; if not feasible, then an east-west cement road barrier throughout the road.
- install minimum one traffic light.
Public Transport:
- not feasible presently, take several bus/metro connections to arrive to mountain. E.g. I live in NDG, have limited mobility and use a cane: I go from home to bus stop 51, then transfer to 66 bus, transfer again to take Mount Royal bus; takes almost two hours to get to mountain that normally takes 20 minutes by car to visit my parents' graves at the Mount Royal Cemetery. To reach the entrance by bus, would take another 30 minutes to walk to their graves.
Universal Accessibility:
- restricting to cyclists and pedestrians is very limiting to visit park and Cemetery; current situation does not address universal accessibility.
- there are sufficient paths within park for cyclists and pedestrians.
New Layout for roadway:
- create bike paths along the road with cement barrier.
- access to Mount Royal cemetery should not be restricted to vehicles: Both my parents are buried at Mount Royal cemetery and it has become very disruptive to access the cemetery.

32. Opinion présentée par Michael Etinson

I have been upset with the road closure on Mount Royal since it’s inception.

I believe that the road should stay open to through traffic permanently.

The mountain has always been accessible to all and closed occasionally for special events like a bike race or walk-a-Thon.

The closure reduced traffic dramatically - that’s true - but it also reduced usage of our beautiful mountain dramatically because thousands decided not to use it at all because of the hassle and concern over where they would put their car and let’s not forget, if you are coming from the west, forget about going to the lookout or just passing buy it on the way east.

I miss that beautiful route. I miss taking guests and tourists on a tour de ville over the mountain.

I and most of my friends and neighbours just didn’t go this year - so we missed seeing our beautiful city from the chalet

I and most of my friends and neighbours and relatives want the road open to reconnect our city and provide access to all. Even if we are all in a car.

There’s an old expression - “don’t fix what isn’t broken”

33. Opinion présentée par Janie Etinson

I would like to see the mountain road re-opened to cars once again, enabling us to go from east to west and vice versa. I missed that these past several months, for both the beauty I missed seeing and for the convenience of getting to my destination without the headaches of traveling a circuitous route.

Very few “ regular bikers” take the road over the mountain, it’s mostly for those training. To inconvenience all those motorists doesn’t make sense. To have used the example of Brooklyn ‘s Prospect Park was dishonest. It’s totally flat, used by the general public of all ages for biking, walking, skateboarding- not just the fitness bikers. It also has a parallel road very close by.

Please re- open my mountain road.

34. Opinion présentée par Melissa Malkin

Through traffic should always be allowed on Camillien-Houde Way and Remembrance Road, at all times of the year.

There should never be a ban on vehicular traffic between Maison Smith and Lac aux Castors, under any circumstances, at any time of the year.

No alternative to through-traffic is needed at this time. The driving lanes have already been reduced from 2 lanes in each direction with no stops, down to one lane in each direction with a number of stop signs added. No additional impediment or change is required.

For me, an urban park road is not much different from other urban roads, in that it needs to accommodate all types of vehicular traffic - buses, personal cars, motorcycles, scooters and bicycles - without preferential treatment of one over the other.

Safety of all is important, but again no particular type of transportation should be canonized over the others. Given the narrowness of the road in the section between Maison Smith and Lac aux Castors, motorists could be allowed the north two lanes of the road by the RCMP barns and cyclists could be given the south lanes currently used for cemetery access from the west. The shoulders of Camillien-Houde and Remembrance Road are already quite broad through the rest of the trajectory, so bicycles have a safe space to occupy out of the flow of motorized traffic, particularly on the tough uphill slope travelling east to west when cyclists often slow right down.

Shuttles could help with the overflowing parking lots. That said, existing parking lots surrounding the old Royal Vic, which give great walking access to the mountain, sit empty, as the cost of parking is ridiculous at $20 for a few hours. Shuttles from other more reasonably priced parking lots could be a consideration over the busy weekends.

I do not feel any other "improvements" are required at this time. What is required is an END to the non-stop RAISING OF PROPERTY TAXES to pay for non-essential cosmetic alterations and political posturing around urban management.

35. Opinion présentée par Jo Ann Goldwater

I feel very strongly that cars should be allowed to use the road crossing the mountain. The cyclist was killed because a motorist made an illegal U-Turn. Traffic regulations should be enforced and the road should be safe for everyone. If you closed a road every time a pedestrian or cyclist was killed or injured there would be no roads open at all. Roads must be made safer for all, not closed.

The closure of the road cuts off the most beautiful part of our city to too many people. Seniors, like me, are not able to cycle nor walk long distances. Beside not being able to enjoy the mountain. It is a great impediment to seniors who want to visit the graves of their friends and relatives. Now I hear that the cyclists are speeding through there and are creating a new menace to pedestrians.

Many city streets are impassible due to construction. Why close off one route that makes traveling easier? The city must make the Camilen Houde safe for all , but keep it open.

36. Opinion présentée par Pierre Fauteux

Under what conditions would you consider it acceptable to allow through-traffic on the mountain?
Under ALL conditions

Under what conditions would you consider it acceptable to ban through-traffic on the mountain?
For special events, such as races.

In your opinion, what would be possible alternatives to removing through-traffic? What would be the conditions for their application?
There is NO logical alternative to removing through traffic.

The mountain has to remain accessible from both East and West.
Through traffic is never heavy (see studies) and aleviates circulation on periferal roads while saving time for users. This reduces pollution, reduces traffic congestion and reduces the frequency of potential accidents.

The mountain’s fauna and flora is not affected by the through traffic. The mountain sits in the middle of the city the emits a million times more CO2 than the narrow Camillien-Houde/Rememberance road.

Accessibility for all, means accessibility for young and old, healthy and sick, athletic and limited active...

And the parking and cemetary access are major issues . There must be access to all parkings and cemetaries from both directions at all times.

Why we must have a public consultation when the preceding facts are glaringly obvious, and when an on-line petition of over 35,000 votes FOR maintaning through traffic?

This is a major waste of public funds . Montreal is a large city, not a private parc for a select group of bicycle afficionados and holier than thou green extremists

37. Opinion présentée par Christine Bentley

The road that goes over the mountain links east and west of the city and should remain open to all year round. It gives access to the mountain park,but it does not interfere in any way with the park itself. Sharing the view of the city from the lookout with visitors for a brief photo stop is a moment of pride, and by continuing to the other side of the city one can appreciate the various boroughs all with different cultural influences, but united as one welcoming city. Remberance Camilien Houde is NOT a park road but rather a road TO the park. On one side of the road is the city’s largest cemeteries and on the other is the vehicular parking which gives access to the park or which allows one to first view the forest we have in the middle of the city. Cars, city & tour buses, bicycles, and pedestrians should all have equal access. Speed limits should be strictly enforced, 40 km per hour max. For safety divide the road with concrete barriers on one side for two way bicycle traffic , and maintain a sidewalk on the other side. In the areas where there is sheer rock walls install wire fence barriers to prevent rocks from falling on passers by, or to prevent falling down the escarpment.

There is sufficient car parking for families to come bringing picnics or for one to enjoy a coffee at Beaver Lake Cafe or Smith House. Too many cars vying for parking just adds noise and disruption. Public transit can be made more available and encouraged with signage and advertising . The 711 bus is great. It should run from Snowden metro on the west side to Mount Royal metro on the east, every 10 minutes on weekends and every 20 during the week.
There is no need for further cafe installations. The cafes at Beaver Lake, Smith House and the Chalet Lookout are ample and encourage relaxed pedestrian traffic. After exploring the forest trails or strolling along the circular roads it is a pleasant reward to enjoy a coffee, hot chocolate or light meal or snack. The lookout on Camilien Houde Road is best for a quick stop and not a gathering place. Having food and drink there just encourages littering. Same for the unsightly sunset viewing spot. No need for this. One can get a great view of the sunset from St . Joseph’s Oratory exterior steps and it is on the 711 route. We don’t need to build more ‘stuff’ on the mountain. We need to maintain it in its mostly natural state, with lots of garbage cans , benches, walking / snowshoeing trails,and winter bird feeding stations. Horse patrol by the police could be more frequent. Those ugly unused glass cabins at Beaver Lake are an unsightly ,unnecessary addition. Total misuse of taxpayers money! The new wooden benches around Braver Lake are lovely . Adding boats for rental is not good, just adds to disturbance. A couple of ducks are ok, but anymore just creates dirt and mess around the lake. (Look at the disaster Lafontaine Park has become!)
A few barbecue picnic areas in the wooded area around Beaver Lake and near the children’s playground area,are a nice idea for family picnics but otherwise no fire pits or fires anywhere.

Bikes should only be on the dirt road, and NOT on the trails- this needs to be enforced . Two weeks ago when I was hiking along a path I was nearly run over twice by dirt bikers careening down the trail.

The mountain park should be a place for all citizens to enjoy and a peaceful place of pride to show our visitors.





38. Opinion présentée par Elsa Kisber

I think the Camillon Hood & Remembrance Rd should be kept open, all year. I think the 'hanging coffee houses' are an eye sore & should be removed, permanently. We have no need of any commercial enterprises on the mountain.
I think the large, wide roads which have gradually taken over the mountain paths should be made much smaller, so that we could return to having paths on the mountain, we need more trees planted.
I believe the bicycles are causing too much damage on the mountain & should be redirected to much more use around the mountain, much less use through the mountain.

39. Opinion présentée par Norman De Benedetti

Through traffic must be permanently reinstated. It is a great loss to Montreal to disallow the most scenic drive in the city. Measures should be taken to crack down on speeding traffic - cars and bicycles alike. Ideally, a separate bike path should be built to accommodate the sport-cyclists who feel the need to exceed safe speed limits.

40. Opinion présentée par Debby Mayman

I feel that the Mont Royal should be open to everyone. There should be a designated lane for bicycles and cars. It is an historic landmark where people love to show tourists what a beautiful city we have. We have to work together to have everyone enjoy this remarkable treasure. Cars should still have rights and it is such a pleasure to be able to drive from one end of the mountain to the other. We have to also remember we have an aging population that may not be able to take public transportation and need to be driven to this area but also for those who wish to visit departed loved ones at the the cemetery .

41. Opinion présentée par Jerry Cytryn

With so many east/west routes under construction it is irresponsible of the current administration to bar access to a major east/west route.

42. Opinion présentée par Tania Kalecheff

Park Road: everyone without exception should be allowed to use the park road otherwise it is discriminatory as it favors only the cyclists and at that we're only referring to elite cyclists and your weekend cyclist would not be doing the climb of Camilien House from Park Avenue

Sharing the road and New Layouts: It is important and all users should respect that. As a driver I have always respected speed limits and signage on Camilien Houde but this is not the case for many cyclist who go past me at incredible speeds going downhill and would not be able to stop should a child or animal run into the road. On the CDN side, cyclists should be on the road that was closed to traffic or give then a designated lane. I find it amazing that the city has not increased the fines for U-turns at the lookout but instead decides to add a "cafe" . Sorry but this is a ridiculous idea and aesthetically speaking it was ugly to boot; what an embarrassment. How about add a camera at the spots where u-turns happen with a caption $1000 fine, or license revocation for one month or 2 if you cannot pay the fine and apply the fines. We're all grown ups and should be responsible for our actions. If you're stupid enough to do the U-turn, well then deal with the consequences. These signs with no U-turns are useless unless the consequence is clearly stated $$$ (think of the billboards on the highway to Toronto which describe clearly the fines for speeding) Public transit: free to go up the mountain, from Park/ Camilien Houde or CDN/ Camilien Houde, no transfers.

Landscape , Heritage and attractiveness: loose the ramshackle cafe and improve the food offerings at the mountain chalet. With all the great food offerings we have in this city , it's embarrassing that nothing has been done. Perhaps some food trucks could be permitted in some areas during summer. The road east -west where it meets CDN to go downtown is downright dangerous; this needs some improvement.

Environment and fauna: many paths are being ruined or being created by mountain bikes; again perhaps some fines could help as a deterrent.

Lastly improve your English communications. On this particular site, the 2 notices one saying that it's my text and the other giving authorisation to publish these texts below my name and contact information are in French. I don't mind as I understand but it it's not only rude to have this only in French on what is supposed to be the English version of the site, but it may discourage some Montrealers to answer and they may not fully understand. And that is not a fair way to treat your tax paying citizens.

43. Opinion présentée par Eric Scott

I am entirely Against the closure of the Camilien-Houde/ Rememberance Road for the following reasons.


1, This road will not be reforested. The City has not shown any plans to turn these roads back to Nature. These roads must remain intact as roads and they have to be maintained and salted at enormous expense. Ordinary tax paying citizens will have to pay the high maintenance costs for a road that they cannot use

2. Under the "experiment" this road was woefully underused, Yet here has been no improvement at separatng bicycles from cars, This was the pre-text given when the City closed the road after the death of a cyclist. Y
I would argue that the sporadic nature of motor traffic during this recent "experiment", endangered the 100 or so superfit cyclists who actually used the road. It lulled them into a false sense of security..

3, One of the aims here ought to be the complete separation between bikes and cars. But this could be accomplished without closing .the road to vehicle traffic.

44. Opinion présentée par Miryam Alter

I would vote for total access to motor vehicles,and reduce speed limit for both motor vehicles and bicycles.
Perhaps also increase the presence of mobile law enforcers

45. Opinion présentée par Kathryn Kroo

The public must be allowed to cross the mountain, by bike, car or public transit - all year long - via Remembrance and Camillien-Houde.

A protected bike lane should be set up along with barriers/medians preventing all users from crossing lanes. A speed limit of 30k per hour must be enforced. (Cameras installed to catch speeders)

46. Opinion présentée par david engels

I am a cyclist foremost, and ride up and down the Mountain at least weekly. I used two enjoy he ambiance of the Mountain with families and folks of all ages enjoying their leisure in the magnificent setting. But I am fearful that the real intent behind recent changes has been solely to favour those who see nature as a cloister of sorts -only for those who enjoy quiet contemplation while disdaining the sights, sounds, and smells of our multicultural universe .

I can attest that the road closure significantly reduced the number of picnicking families throughout the summer. Besides, I think of the great parks such as the Garden Luxembourg, the Boston Commons, Central Park, and Brooklyn's Prospect Park - all brimming with people and an endless variety of activities which draw them. Contrast that to Mount Royal where there is virtually no sport of physical activities permitted. There is almost no food to be had, and the cost for a family to come by public transit is prohibitive.

The u-turn which caused all this was just the latest of the counties number of dangerous maneuvers which long ago begged for a narrow metal fence/lane divider which would have precluded the entire incident. But, like a mysterious report suggesting the danger of a baseball and the subsequent closure of the diamond in Jean Mance Park, those who prefer cloisters for the elite had just the pretext they were seeking to, once more, "protect" our Mountain and Green spaces from those for whom they were meant and who are increasingly excluded.

I would like to hear the views of our officials on the comparison I make between ours and the other great parks I mention, and about how and why the people here are excluded from their own parks and green spaces.

47. Opinion présentée par Gail Goldstein

Please keep the mountain open all year round!

48. Opinion présentée par Howard Salomon

Park road should be open to all and we should be able to go through it all, it is one of the best points to view the city. Sharing the road is necessary, but all should be able to share it,make the road a little smaller and wider protected paths for bikes and people.From what I can see public transit was okay before the road was closed and should continue. To improve parking how about underground parking like they do in Boston, and at both entry points to the mountain show
how many spots are available.

49. Opinion présentée par Richard Schultz

Leave the road open all across the mountain. There are sufficient stop signs to keep the traffic at a safe rate for cycling as well as car traffic.

50. Opinion présentée par Andrea Speck

I believe that Mount Royal Park is a precious jewel to be enjoyed by all Montrealers and visitors without artificial restrictions. Cutting access to the mountain in two has little purpose except to discourage usage of a beautiful area.

I agree that the road through the park should be strictly for sightseeing or to access walking trails of the mountain, as well as access to the two cemeteries. Speed limits must be enforced or speed bumps installed to discourage any use of the roadway as a shortcut across the mountain. Normal driving across Mount Royal remains a wonderful way to appreciate the beauty of the city and should be maintained.

I would usually visit the mountain several times a month throughout the year but I avoided it the whole summer of 2018 because of the artificial restrictions imposed. In the past the Lac Castor parking lot is so often full throughout the summer with families & picnickers that I would often have to move on to the larger Maison Smith parking area, but knowing that this was no longer an option, I chose other destinations instead.

When taking visitors to see our mountain, especially the lookout, it was very complicated to have to drive all the way from NDG across downtown to Parc Ave in order to get to a convenient parking area. We don’t always have the time to do this and not everyone has the physical capacity to walk all the way from Lac des Castors to the lookout.

Only elite cyclists were able to use the trails on the mountain as the access roads are far too steep for the average cyclist to attempt.

Please find a more rational solution to the problem of cars speeding across the mountain than the one imposed upon the population last summer.

51. Opinion présentée par Mary Armstrong

I believe the entire road should be accessible to everyone at all times, but that the speed limit on the mountain should be no higher than 30 kph, and there could be speed bumps installed as well.

The speed limit must be enforced for cyclists as well as for motorists.

52. Opinion présentée par Neil and Marilyn Caplan

We are opposed to closing the road to through traffic. We support efforts to enhance safety and protect the environment. Whatever happened to enforcing existing driving code and prosecuting offenders, including manslaughter for causing the death of a cyclist by an illegal U-turn!?! Banning cars altogether deprives many people (law-abiding citizens) of easy access to enjoyment of this beautiful space. Driving through and over the mountain is itself an aesthetic, enriching and stress-reducing experience for drivers, their families, tourists and visitors. Banning cars is not the way to go.

53. Opinion présentée par Joan Sutherland

The speed limit should be reduced to 30 km. Per hour and keep the road open. From what I can understand , the citizens from the east can access the through road but citizens west of Park Avenue have no access. This means in order to see the view we must drive around ( many more kilometres ) to view the city and to access the Mont Royal Cemetary. Even if public transport is increased , cemetary access is limited as many people must walk a long way to get to their loved ones burial place.

Totally unfriendly to the elderly , handicapped , informed and families with more than 1 small child.

With the confusing closure of the summer, the taxpayers paid police to be on duty to control and explain the situation. Maybe we could use the police to police the speed limits and U turns . Just as dangerous are the cyclists that ride down the hills just feet from the back of cars so drivers feel scared to brake in case these cyclists hit the back of their cars and get injured.

This pilot project was deemed a success and yet there is no one I know that thinks this is a good idea. It seems to be just another nod to the “ spandex set “ who can ride and jog up the mountain. Give that a large percentage of our population is over 60 ( baby boomers ) and therefore not as mobile as they used to be , they should not be cut off from visiting loved ones and enjoying the mountain without walking long distances to do it. This goes for the older population and the informed and handicapped.

NOT A SUCCESS !

The elected officials seem to be pushing through their own agenda.

Joan Sutherland
Resident of Melrose Avenue in NDG


54. Opinion présentée par Claude GOU

It is ridiculous for the City of Montreal Plante administration to have stopped through-traffic on Remembrance Road/Camilien Houde based mostly on one unfortunate accident to a cyclist.

Particularly since it is not clear how much that cyclist was in fact partly responsible for the accident. It seems that the cyclist, a young inexperienced aspiring racer, was probably travelling on a downhill section of the road at a greater speed than that posted for cars.

Also, it should have been evident to the cyclist that a bicycle on skinny tires and limited traction/road handling and with inherently small brakes cannot maneuver or brake as fast as any car can in front of it.

Consequently, a bicycle should never be raced on a road shared with cars. In fact, when there are bicycle races, regular car traffic is never allowed with the exception of vehicles driven by specially trained drivers (for example, the official cars one sees during the Tour de France).

It seems that the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve on Ile Notre-Dame is reserved at specific times so that aspiring and experienced bicycle racers can enjoy their activity/sport without endangering themselves.

All other form of speeding and racing on Montreal streets and boulevards should be banned and speeds, particularly on downhill stretches, should be monitored by the SPVM and fines levied as provided in bylaws.

It seems that the anti-car faction at City Hall took advantage of that one accident to ban through-traffic on the Mountain and thereby inconvenienced thousands, maybe as much as ten thousand, commuters everyday rather than issue a warning to bicyclists to control their speed.

Let us hope, that common sense will eventually prevail and that through-traffic on the Montain will be allowed again.

55. Opinion présentée par Charles Spector

Closing the access to Mont Royal was a huge mistake. Not only did it cause severe traffic jams throughout the City, it also placed a burden on those whose only access to visit Mont-Royal, particularly the cemeteries, is by car. To think that closing access is a way to decrease carbon emissions is plain wrong when the result is causing people to drive greater distances and to spend even more time in their cars stuck in traffic.

I also noticed that the shoulder of the road, which is where cyclists ride, has been narrowed. Instead of having a wide buffer from what used to be relatively slow-moving cars, cyclists are now forced to move closer to the roadway which is now taken up by speeding tour buses. As tragic as the past accidents have been, the situation has not changed by restricting access as I witnessed a number illegal U-turns and other unexpected maneuvers by cars and some really large buses.

Probably the most disappointing aspect of the access closure is the cavalier attitude that the City's administration has taken towards its citizens in this matter. There seems to be a blatant disregard of what people really want which is less time spent in frustrating traffic jams and better access to the downtown core and other parts of the City. Yes, I am sure it is really nice to hear the birds chirping on Mont-Royal in the middle of the day but does it really have to be at the expense of car owners and those who want to have fluid access to different parts of the City.

56. Opinion présentée par Peter Laplante

I believe cutting off access to through traffic is a bad idea. I do not feel it is fair to disallow a large portion of citizens to be penalized due to the unfortunate poor decision of one driver that caused the death of a young cyclist. I used to go to the mountain every year. I would go to Beaver lake, the Chalet and the other look out tower, as well as the cross.. I would bring visitors from out of town, as I am proud of my city. I went once this year to bring my sister to Mt Royal cemetery and had a hard time trying to get there by cutting through Universite de Montreal. I did not go back again. I agree safety is a concern for cyclists, but a barrier would be more effective than limiting traffic the way it was done. I saw a news clip, where a cyclist almost got squished between a bus and a barrier. This tells me that the issue of safety was not been totally addressed.
The city of Montreal is already touting this a a success before they heard any input from citizens. This tells me that a decision has already been made regarding this situation. Will you actually listen to what people are saying or is this just a formality? Will the city release the financial impact of this decision. For sure there were fewer cars,. Was there a drop in parking revenue? were fewer people visiting Beaver Lake as well as the Chalet and Maison Smith.

I suggest installing a barrier to keep motorists and cyclists separated. Cyclist should also slow down. This way everyone could enjoy the mountain, as the mountain is for everyone.

57. Opinion présentée par Kato Lone

I am an active cyclist and an active user of mont royal. The closure of the car traffic to the upper parking lots for those coming from the west is unreasonable. The lower parking lots are often full and makes access to the park very difficult from the west. At the same time, the cycling on camille houde has not improved as there is still car traffic from the east ( and back) making the shared space identical to before.
I find the summer closure of the car traffic between the lower and upper parking lots unreaonable and with result of keeping the beautiful park area inaccessible for more people living on the west of the mountain. There has been no benefit from this experiment, only inconvenience.

Kato Lone

58. Opinion présentée par Mary Poland

Nice idea but badly executed so please don't continue it. It didn't work. Whoever said there were no traffic consequences in the rest of the city was deluding themselves. Bring in more speed bumps and better patrols to control the speed of drivers and cyclists - yes, cyclists speed too and they also need to be controlled. The mountain belongs to everyone, not just athletic cycling fanatics. Allow bus and car traffic over the mountain.

59. Opinion présentée par Geoff Wagner


I feel the Rememberance Road and Camillien-Houde Parkway should be kept completely open. Closing it cuts
the city in half.

Living in NDG and often travelling to the Plateau Mont- Royal or Outremont this past summer was difficult.
With construction on both Dr. Penfield and Pine Aves traffic was forced to Sherbrooke St which was further plugged
with traffic. This made one think twice about going to the shops or restaurants of those neighborhoods.

I on many occasions, when I have visitors like to drive up to Smith House, park and then walk up to the look out.
Return to the car and carry on past the eastward lookout. It is a real highlight for tourists.
Cutting the parkway in two eliminates one part of this trip as I would not go to one side and drive around to the other.

My family is buried in the Mount Royal Cemetery and although I do not go there often ,the inconvenience of
having to travel over to Park Ave. to access it again makes me think twice about going. I am sure many other visitors to this cemetery and the Cote de Neiges one are much inconvenienced by this, especially as public transport is not that reliable.

I agree that the park should be preserved as naturally as possible. The City could enhance the Camillien-
Houde portion of the roadway. The shoulders on either side are very wide and could be rebuilt, even narrowed to
include a dedicated bike path as well as some trees. That way bikes and cars would be kept separate .
On the Rememberance portion of the road. The old part of the road has been left paved. This could also be
broken up and trees or flowers planted or also incorporated into a bike path.

Thank you for letting me give you my opinion.

60. Opinion présentée par Sonia Zylberberg

I often walk along the chemin Olmstead from av du Parc to the Maison Smith, and sometimes I take the bus back along Camillien-Houde. During the entire time that Camille-Houde was closed, I did not see any difference in the number of cyclists on Olmstead; there were still as many as before. Similarly, I saw no difference in the number of cyclists on Camillien-Houde - there were just as few as before! And, just as before, there was a significant difference between them: the cyclists on Camillien-Houde were dressed in spandex "Cyclist" clothing, whereas the ones on Olmstead wore ordinary clothes.Although not a scientific study, this suggests strongly to me that the only ones to benefit from the closure were an elite group of cyclists. For the last majority of Montrealers, it was an inconvenience that disrupted daily commutes and family outings to one of Montreal's wonderful venues. The role of the mountain park in providing a free "natural" place to gather with family and friends is very important to many Montrealers, especially those who cannot afford to go out of town.
This whole conversation began because of a driver who didn't obey the rules and did an illegal U-turn. It seems to me that we could solve the problem by enforcing the existing rules and creating a significant enough barrier that U-turns could no longer be done.
Please don't make the mountain accessible primarily for the privileged and well-off people; we need it to be OUR mountain, in line with Olmstead's vision: a magnificent inner-city park that is accessible to all.

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